WWGOA Father's Day Showcase 2024

Welcome to the Father's Day Showcase 2024. Um This event, I don't know, we have been doing this for a while and always fun. Um Paul and I are both guilty of being tool geeks. Uh That being said, why don't you introduce yourself, Paul? Tell the folks at home who you are and why are you in my shop? Sure. Yeah. Well, I'm Paul Mayer and uh I'm a woodworker and wood Turner, uh youtuber. And uh I've done quite a bit of writing for the uh woodworkers Guild of America website and uh and outside of Woo King Paul and I have known each other for a really long time and like I said, we both have the, uh the geeks of loving to look at new products and we got a bunch of stuff to show you today a few rules of the road. I've got my ipad and I'm gonna be watching for questions as they come in for today. We wanna look for, we wanna receive questions that are specific to the tools that we're about to talk about. Remember that I do an open Q and A uh the second Thursday of every month at four o'clock. That is open to any question you wanna ask today. What we wanna do is key in on the specific tools that we're about to talk about. Um With that being said, I think we're ready for the first one ready when you are. Harvey tools has come into the woodworking marketplace like crazy. They have got a lot of really cool stuff going on and today we're looking at the router table and um I know that you're trying to sneak this out the door when you leave, you better keep an eye on it if it turns up missing, you know, where to look first. I'm uh I'm thrilled that it's cast iron and very heavy because that possibly limits Paul's opportunity to get it out the door. But um a lot of great stuff going on here. So let's just router tables in general. Let's hit that first. I know I am a huge advocate of owning a router table as probably one of the most versatile tools you can have in your shop. I totally agree. I I it becomes sort of the center of many projects of mine back and forth to the router table. Uh doing joinery operations, shaping it really, uh really gets a lot of play in my shop. And so what's, what's cool with what Harvey has done here? Cast iron top. So as a rule in tools heavy is good, um It brings a lot of advantages to the tool. And then of course, with it being cast iron, dead flat, this is not gonna sag over time. So even with I've got a £15 router hanging in that thing. Um, we don't have to worry about any kind of drop in the table over time. And I know you're pretty enamored with the fence. I can't keep my hands off the thing. I mean, I think about, you know, what you want in a fence on a router table, this has, you know, all the features and then some that I could even imagine. And every one of them, the details are just like over the top in quality and precision and, and, and capability. And I know we're, we're gonna see this in the video in a little bit. But what really blew me away was the, the precision uh micro adjust where this could actually be used as a, a jointer for, for edge jointing. And I'm a, I'm a huge advocate of knowing how to do that and having a router table that lets you do it. That's the thing. So I know how to do it and I can't really do it with the router table set up that I have, but this is actually capable of doing that. All right. So because Paul mentioned it, here's our format, um We're gonna be looking at a video of um that we've already shot on the Harvey router table. So let's have a look at that and then we'll come back if you've got questions about Harvey, bring those in while the video is running and we'll answer when we get back. I have had the Harvey tools router tail in my shop for a while now and I love it. There's so much cool stuff going on here. It's a cast iron top solid as a rock dead flat. There's a dust collection box under the top here. So what that's doing that dust collection box is capturing the router. There's a four inch hose connected to it from, it comes the hose to the fence. So you'll see. It's one stop shopping to make sure dust gets picked up off of this thing. The mobility is really good. This is a heavy router table, but there's a foot pedal here. You're gonna see in a second that lets me do stuff like that, easily move it around and then one click, we're back on the floor so it doesn't move when I don't want it to. Now, that's all cool stuff. But there's a lot of stuff on a router table where you're looking for precision, uh joinery in general drawer, locks, lock, miters, rabbits and Datos. So the fence is really well thought out on this. The movement of the fence itself can be done manually. I can pull that back and forth. But more importantly, when you get to a position where you need really need to micro adjust, there's a bunch of things going on here. If I lack this component, when I turn this knob, it's advancing the entire fence in small increments in this direction. So for this, you think of again, something like a drawer lock or a lock miter where the difference between a good fit and a bad fit is really small parts of an inch instead of loosening the fence and making gross adjustments. With my hand, I can have these lock knobs loose, use this component to micro, adjust it and really finesse it to where I want it. The other thing that's cool is out feed side only. I can turn this knob and using that, I can offset the out feed fence from the in feed fence. If you have not yet used your router table as a jointer, you're probably missing out. That's where that's really gonna pay off. Even if you own a jointer, being able to joint on a router table has a bunch of really good advantages. So overall, it's so well thought out. In addition to what we've looked at here, there are stops and with a direct re scale on top of the fence, I can position those relative to the center of my cutter. So again, it's gonna make repeatability and precision and finesse and your router table use really, really easy to manage. So what I'm gonna do is I am going to set up a coping style cutter that's in the router table right now and then we're gonna make a pass and that's gonna show you because that makes a lot of chips just how effective this dust collection is. Let me get that set up. I've got the long grain cutter and my coping style set set up ready to go. So let's plug in and the thing to watch for here is not dust, but honestly, it's the lack of dust. Mm Pretty impressive, great aluminum fence. Great things incorporated into the fence. They're gonna help you with your set up, help you with your repeatability, help you with your accuracy. This is a really cool router table. So one of the things we saw too, you had talked about the fence before he went to the video. Um But we saw on there the dust collection and this over under the combined dust collection on this is another thing that I'm so impressed with because one of the things I think it's tough with the router table is that the chips come off with so much velocity that it's difficult for dust collection of any kind to grab them. So if all you have is a dust collection, uh dust collector connected to the fence, you lose a lot of stuff below the table. Um So this over under with having that box below is great. I I in addition to that, I think that the sizing of that hose is really critical and I think they got it right to have the right balance of air flow between the box, which is gonna keep your, your router clean, uh and the the top side which is gonna keep your, your work area clean and, and dust free. So it's not getting in your lungs, that's really the right mix. And if you're, if you're concerned about your hard working router being inside a metal box, Harvey also has ports in that box that you can open. So, in addition to drawing air through here through here, you can open that port and pull clean air in to make sure the router itself is getting adequate ventilation and doesn't run hot. So, really, um, just a home run overall in the world of router tables and um, a, a really good edition with the micro adjustments available everywhere. When you drill a hole, you just, you just redid your whole kitchen. And uh, I believe when you drill holes for doors and holes for doors, for the poles, you kind of want them to all come out the same or is that just me? Is that a thing? It is a thing. And, and uh, there's a, I found that there are a lot of ways to do it wrong. Well, it's, um, we're now here to talk about Craig's Hardware Pro and um, it is just that, um, I don't, you go first because we both have stuff that we like about this particular tool. Yeah. And, and I actually just did another big cabinet project at home too. And, uh I think I made eight doors for a, for an existing project. So I feel like I'm making a lot of cabinets and, and doors and drawers these days. Uh So I, I mean, I think the, the overall set up for uh accuracy, repeatability and are, are unbelievable. That's such a game changer. What I really noticed about that is the quality and height of the drill guides, the steel bushings that give you the ability to consistently not only place the uh the, the, the uh hardware, but to drill straight through it. I end up a lot of times going, you know, marking it and then going to the drill press because I have proven time and time again that I cannot drill straight through a style. Uh And, and it's, it causes problems when you go to. So if we go this way, the great point that Paul is making when you look at the guide here and the thickness of this block translates into the height of this guide. So then when we come in and drill, it's the amount of contact we have with that guy that if, if that guide is shallow, you could be in the right spot, but it gives you the opportunity to count the drill and then you're gonna exit in the wrong spot on the back side. Um So there's places for that to go wrong. But my big thing is, um, that I like so much is a direct read. I've seen Jigs like this where like you gotta do math in your head to get stuff figured out. If, if I have a pole that's on four inch centers, then where am I putting these holes? And, and if I wanna be X distance from the edge, where am I putting this And on this one, like I said, everything is a directory based on the center line of the hole, which I think is critical because that's, that's the hard number that you wanna work with. Um Well, let's look at, let's look at the Craig video that goes into detail on this so that you can see and then uh we'll come back and look for questions when you're putting hardware like poles and any kind of doors and drawers, you really wanna be consistent with that installation. There's a lot going on here. We wanna make sure this is straight. We wanna make sure if there are multiple doors and drawers, everything is done the same. Craig's hardware Jig Pro is really, really good for this. There's a lot going on here. This is made out of aluminum, the drill guide, you'll see me use those in a second, are hardened. So that means you can use them over and over again without wear. What I really like is that the scales on here are direct read. So what that means is that when I use this, I'm looking at the distance from the center of that hole to this edge and then same, we're gonna talk through a bunch of this stuff. So it makes it really easy to set this up. Let's do the drawer first. In this case, this is a three inch on center pole, meaning it's three inches from there to there. So zero is the center. If I set this one to an inch and a half, pretty sure that's half of three and this one to an inch and a half. Now we're set for the Pope. The other thing we wanna do is locate in this direction. So again, we can direct read this. So we know center of hole, which is still center of hole, so I can set this and that is from that index. I'm direct reading right there to the measurement I want. Now going this way we can do a couple of different things. There's a notch right here. And what I could do is mark the center of the draw front, locate that notch on that mark and that's gonna center me on the door front or we can use this stop and locate this way. So I know that that draw front is 10 inches wide. If I put this stop at five now, boom, boom, boom, and we're set to go. Now again, at repeatability is the benefit to this, I can leave this stuff set, change this. If I need to wider drawer front, I can also reverse this. So if I need to go left hand, right hand, I can do that as well. That's a double. Now on the door, maybe you want to do a single. So similarly, there we can direct read and set. So that this is now putting me, I'm the center of the style. This way, this is putting me the distance down from the top corner I wanna be and then same, I can flip this. So if I had a left hand door instead of a right hand door, I can use the exact same setup. So again, the key to this looking good when you're done is that you do it consistently from cabinet to cabinet, door to door, door to door. And that Craig Jig is really gonna help make that happen that I was impressed with with the Craig hardware pro is the thumb screws on. Here are small. And I gotta say initially, I was a little concerned like, can I get them tight enough to repeatedly? So it stays in place through repeated whole positions. And the answer is yes, that and there's plenty of leverage here to lock down that thumb screw and hold. So that again, with that repeatability that we keep talking about, you're gonna get that as you go from hole to hole to hole and not worry about this moving all anodized aluminum. So a very robust, um, a very robust tool that really does its job well and mirrors. So whether it's a left hand or right hand door, once you're set up, you can use it for, uh, you can use it for both. It's pretty apparent when you look at that, that the person who designed it is a cabinet installer. They've done a lot of this and, and solved all the problems that they've ever had with that process. They knew what they were looking for. Power carving has become one of my favorite things. Um And one of the things I really like about it is that you start with this chunk of wood and it's such and I've used the word organic over and over again, but it's such an organic process where really, instead of like, you know, if we build a cabinet, it's built to these dimensions. And even if you turn a bowl on the lathe, you've got whatever a 12 inch blank, you're probably gonna make an 11.5 inch diameter bowl with power carving. You just flow with the wood and it can really, it could be kidney shaped or pyramid shaped or egg shaped or whatever, then you can work with it. So, a big um gain in that world is from Arbor Tech and the Turbo scraper that they've come out with is crazy cool. And um in your lathe turning experience, you've used negative rake lathe chisels, um, as have I, so that the benefits of negative rake on a lathe is that if you're up against woods that are prone to tearing if you're turning epoxy, um, negative rake comes into play and we can apply those physics or cutting tool geometry to what's going on here. It, it's also, you know, same analogy with the lathe, those negative r uh, scrapers are way less grabby. So it's, it's less dangerous. It really is a safety factor, which I really believe to be the case here as well. And, uh, the, the thing to really liken this to if you're a, if you're a flat woodworker is, um, if you've used a cabinet scraper or a card scraper, it's a very similar cut that we're getting from this. And where we, where we default to those in woodworking is when you're up against gnarly woods that would otherwise tear out badly with other cutting tools, then we default to that card scraper or the cabinet scraper. Yeah, it, it's a surprisingly smooth surface that you get, you're, you're using something that kind of reminds you of a grinder a little bit. So you're going in there, you're not expecting to get such a, a clean, smooth cut. It's a cut rather than a, an abraded surface, which is a, a huge difference. Uh, when you go to, you know, take that through a few grits of paper, get to a final uh, finish. You can get there a lot quicker and I think you can get there a lot better when you're starting with a plane surface like that instead of a torn surface because it's otherwise you're just fighting that tear out throughout the same. Exactly what we did. We put the turbo scraper to the test. We put it up against the maple bough. Let's have a look at, uh, how that went, this maple bough bowl is gonna be so cool when it's done. And it's a really good example of a spot to use Arbor text Turbo scraper. What we've got going in a burrow is grain that's going in about 400 different directions. It's part of what's gonna make this look really cool when it's finished and literally has finished on it when it's been machined and sanded. And a co of sealer. That grain dynamic is gonna be absolutely amazing. What is great about the thermo scraper for this is that we've got these negative rake cutters that do a great job. Very similar to the way a card scraper or a cabinet scraper works where when we have these gnarly gnarly woods, it does a really nice job of cutting, not tearing. Now, my set up here, there's a couple of things involved with this. So let's turn the clock back a little bit and look at how this ball got to this point. That method I used hot glue on a scrap board to secure this into the jaws here works really well. I've done that on a lot of different bowls. One of the things I really like about the turbo scraper is that if you've seen the chainsaw style cutters, you can do this work with, this is so much easier to manage and I find so much safer to use than those style of cutters. So in addition to the great surface finish, it's leaving behind here the way that it operates very, very user friendly. What I'm gonna do is fire this up again. Keep taking away anything that doesn't look like a bowl in my burrow. And then once the machining is done with the turbo scraper, I'll sand this, I'll get a coat of finish on it. This is gonna be a really amazing looking piece. So they saw on the video the preliminary and we're not, you know, waiting for do to rise here, we're gonna do a little reveal. So you saw the borough get cut to a point on that video and that's the final. So the, the thing I like so much about that turbo scraper is that, that look at the 11 billion different directions the grain is taken in this bowl. And when you're up against that, you know, you wanna cut downhill and your woodworking whenever you can. Well, what's downhill on that bowl. Um So that's where the negative rake really pays off. And, um, I for one am pretty darn happy with how that thing came out. The surface uh quality on that is just unbelievable. And I walked in the shop, I saw it from 20 ft away, walked onto it and I wa went up to it and I thought it was, the finish was still wet on it. It just looks, it just looks so there's such a depth to it and the, the surface quality is just unbelievable. Yeah, it's, um, it's a very fun. Power carving in general is very fun for me. And this particular piece, this, this is one of the, this is one of the nicest things I've done and it's thanks to the Turbo scraper and its ability to scrape away the material rather than t the material. Yeah, they've done an amazing job with that in a way that you have just smooth, uh, passage across the wood and it doesn't feel scary and grabby when you're, uh, when you're making contact with the wood. All right, I'm gonna eek here for questions. If you don't have a question, I have one for you. Well, you can, I can do both. So you, you get quickly addicted to whatever woodworking thing you're working on at the moment or, or whatever I'm doing at the moment. But yes. So you're, you're like, I am hopelessly addicted to turning on the lathe turning bowls in particular. And now you've got this kind of passion. How do you choose when when you're gonna turn a ball, like this would have made a good ball blank. Well, I, and you made a ball even, even though you're a turner, I'm gonna disagree with you on this as a B blank because it's such a funky shape. So when I looked at this and I've had this piece of wood for a while and when I looked at this and I'm thinking about like, well, how am I gonna cut my blank to put it on the lathe. How am I gonna cut my blank out of that? And if I did that, if I did some kind of a slice and then I mounted and turned this so much of this would get cut away. That's true. And one of the things that was that I found neat from the start was I didn't flatten the bottom to give it a resting spot. I found that with these lobes, it would pretty naturally sit. So again, I use the word organic over and over and over again with this stuff. But I love that the outside of the burrow is still the outside of the borough. And then as I cut different from a lathe on this one, I mean, clearly I took way more wood out here because there was more meat in that lobe. And then I took less out over here because under like right there, it's almost through, it's very, very thin right there. So it gives me that micro control to do whatever I want and shape it or whatever. Yeah, that's a great point. You definitely got more of your money's worth out of your blank if you will, uh, with this because I, now that you're saying that I can visualize, OK, if I would put that on the lathe, I would end up with a bowl about the size of a Cheerios bowl. Yeah, it'd be very, the grain would be pretty, but you'd lose the natural rim, you'd lose the live rim here. And then, um, yeah, it just, you wouldn't have, um, quite kind of as much of an art piece. Maybe as this one is great point that make many gifts for people in your life. Put it this way. George, I don't think that I have bought a gift in, well, maybe five years. Not very many at all since I've owned a lathe. So, what we're after here is Penn State has so much cool stuff that, um, that you can turn on a lathe and it's basically anyone, you know, with any interest they have, you can make a thing for them. So, we've got an array of stuff here that's already been turned and it's everything from pens which cover a variety of topics, golf, hunting, or shooting, religious. And then also there's a crochet needle and one of the things that I really think is neat about that is there's a whole set of these and they're interchangeable with different size hooks. I keep calling it a needle. It's not a needle. It's a crochet hook. Um, and a seam ripper, which I'm actually very excited to have because I'm doing more and more sewing. Um, so again, the point out of this being that regardless of somebody's interest, you can find something for him totally. And the other thing, a question we get a lot is, um, I'd like to monetize my hobby a little bit. Do you have any ideas? Well, there you go. Imagine you're sitting at a craft show a few months before Christmas or Father's Day or Mother's Day or graduation with that array of stuff. And you're satisfying so many categories of what people like to do. Absolutely. Right. And I've, I've looked at that from so many different angles. You know, how, how can you make money, wood turning if you wanna go to, you know, do craft shows, sell stuff on Etsy, whatever I keep coming back to this is the way you would do that. And in addition to the kits that allow you to satisfy categories of hobbies, the other thing that's great about Penn State is the materials that they have available. So you can see some of that in what we've got down here. Uh, there's some resin, some epoxy, a stabilized burrow. That's that crochet hook the wood used in this religious theme pen is actually olive wood from the Holy Land. So, uh, piece of antler. So in addition to customizing by category choice, like, you know, what kind of, what the pen says, the material also allows you to customize it for, um, jiving with whatever that hobby is. Yep. Totally agree. And one other, I guess plug that I would make would be if you have, you know, any sort of anxiety from whatever source in your life, this has proven for so many people to bring a just a not only a AAA sustainable kind of relief on demand, you can go out and quickly get into that flow state and just have that endorphin release and get to a happy place very quickly, very reliably with a look at the size of this set up. I mean, you can do that just about anywhere and uh and and not at a huge investment. So I'm a huge believer in this uh for not only the reasons you're describing but just what it can do for a person. So speaking of look at this set up, let's have a look at this video because I talk about in the video, the lathe itself and go through the process of making one of these pens. So you can see what that actually the turning process looks like. One of the things I like doing in the shop the most is making stuff for other people and a lathe and all of the stuff from Penn State that goes with it is a really good way to make gifts for other people. So let's first talk about some gift ideas and there'll be more of that. Um And then we'll talk about how we get there. So here are some examples. Pens and a crochet hook. How cool is that? And what's cool about the pens that Penn State has available? Is there are so many different themes. So in this case, this is the footprint quote that you may be familiar with. This one is for the golfer in your life. This one is for the hunter or marks person in your life. This is for the crochet in your life. And then you'll see there are other things that we can do as well. A huge assortment of other things. The other thing that's neat about this is that yes, we're in a woodworking shop, but that doesn't limit us to wood. This is oak, but this is antler. This is a stabilized box elder piece. So Penn State has this huge expanse of stuff available from which you can make this huge expanse of gifts. So it all comes together to allow you to either make really cool specialized gifts for people in your life or make these things to monetize your shop. Imagine selling these crazy cool things at a craft show right before Christmas, you're not gonna be able to make them fast enough. So how do we get here? Well, first off, you gotta have a lathe. This little turn crafter lathe is cool because it's got a lot of juice. It's a third horsepower motor. So, in addition to what we're about to do, you can turn small bowls, you can turn pepper mills. One of the things that you're probably gonna need in the course of your turning is a drill chuck. And that's gonna go in the tail stock and allow you to do a lot of different stuff here. This lathe comes with a drill truck that'll go into the tail stock very handy. It also comes with a cone center. And again, as you get into your turnings, very handy thing to have. One of the things I like about it the most is you do not have to put your hands in here and change a belt on different steps to change speed. You just turn it on. And if you can use a dimmer switch on a light, you can change speed on this lathe. So we're getting an R PM read out right there by turning this dial. Of course, I'm increasing, decreasing. It's so simple to do. And one of the things I like about simple is then you're gonna do it. So when it's this simple to change speed, that means you're gonna take the time to get to the right speed as opposed to a belt on step. Pulleys, people tend to just rock on with the speed they're at because they don't want to take the time to make the change. So this gives us a speed range of 300 to 3000 R PM. That's gonna really do a good job of covering your bases. The other thing we gotta do is get where we're going. So where we're going is that I'm gonna show you how to do one of the golf pens come to these kits is some kind of a barrel like this. And that brass barrel is in the end, what's gonna support the mechanism and everything else that goes with it. The barrel goes inside a piece of wood in this case, that's curly maple. It's gonna look really beautiful under finish. You get going with this by drilling a hole, that's the right size for the barrel. And in addition to having the kits material, you can work with Penn State also has the different size drill that you need for the different size barrels. The next thing is to get these fastened together. And C A cyanoacrylate glue is what you want to use for that. So, a beta glue here and then a little bit of a spin as we go in and as it gets close, I like to just finish that with the glue bottle. So I don't get it all over my pinkies. C A glue dries really fast. So I'm gonna give that 40 seconds or so. And then we'll come back and look at the next step next step, we have to clean up what we've done here. And what I mean by that is that when that hole got drilled, maybe it wasn't perfectly perpendicular to the end grain. So the barrels in the glue is dry, we need a trimmer and this is just the right size to go inside the barrel. It's gonna clean out any glue that got inside there. Then this is gonna b the end grain there so that we know they're on the same axis when they're done, then the way the system comes together is that we have parts from the kit. So here's some parts from the golf pen that I'm working on these parts, the diameter of these matches the diameter of the bushings I have on here. So that's what tells us when I turn this. Basically, those bushings tell me when to stop because again, the diameters match up. So they become gauges that I can use as I'm working on this. Then all of this is going on to a mandrill and on the mandrel, we can capture our work, have the guide bushings have the material and make sure I'm not hitting. Now, we just take away everything that doesn't look like a golf pen. Ok? So as you're turning, we were watching the guide bushing that's controlling the diameter and there's nothing wrong with sanding to finish size. I often use pens in my turning classes as a way for people to learn spindle turning skills. I love that because you get a really cool thing when you're done and it's a good way to learn on your good way to practice your skills. Um When you do that, it's not a horrible idea to just sand to that final dimension at the end. I've got a little bit more tool work to do and then I'm gonna send this out and get a code of finish on it and then we'll, uh, have a look at the assembly process. All right, one second. And I'll throw some finish on there. Now, with finish on this, we can put everything together. It's hard to beat Penn State's jig for putting these things together. And as an extra benefit, if you do something wrong, it also helps you take things apart. So the directions that come with the kits are really, really good. You just need to follow those and we're going to, uh, press parts together here. And then in this case, a pen for the golf enthusiast in your life, but a huge array of this kind of stuff available. So that regardless of what someone enjoys doing Penn State, most likely has a kit you can put together to make a really cool gift for that person. So, one of the things I did quite intentionally is the project that's on the lathe right now is a pepper mill that's the mechanism for it. And the reason I did that is everything that we saw. What we saw in the video relies on a man like this and this is a little bit different system. So one cool chunk of wood, it's a piece of Spal and Maple Two. I just wanted something here to show that. Um Though a lot of the projects do depend on the mander system that you just saw in the video. Other projects have slightly different setups like the Pepper Mill does here. So let me peek here quickly. All right, we're set. I would make one last plug. It's, it's, we're, we're talking about Father's Day right now. But you know, when you need to start building up your inventory for your holidays, six months ago, it is right now. And that's what I'm doing this, this past three weeks, I've been at the lathe. Can't stop getting my holiday inventory set. So it's, I often half jokingly say Christmas Eve is not the time to start prepping for the gifts you're giving on Christmas Day. Anticipate that a little bit. Like now you'll thank me later. Happy birthday to Sawstop. Yes, indeed. 20th anniversary for Sawstop. And um what a game changer in the woodworking world. And there are a lot of things going on here. And um the thing, the manner in which I very commonly talk about this saw is it's a really, really good table saw. And hey, you know what? It's got a break because it's the break is wonderful. The flesh sensing technology, the protection is a wonderful thing, but there's no compromise in the table saw itself that you're getting because you're getting the break. They, they put the brake on a really well engineered saw and there's so many little facets to that, um, how you align the blade with the slots in the table, you know, all the set up stuff. And, um, in my particular case, this is a 2007 vintage saw up and running just as well today as it was the day I got it. You know, another thing that I think is really stand out that doesn't get as much attention on the saw stop is the dust collection. I think that they were pioneers in getting it right table saw dust collection. If you look inside the cabinet, the way that they've designed the, the dust, it shrouds right up to the blade right up to the blade. And that is, that was a game changer in the, in the industry and uh and kudos to sawstop for really innovating there and it really works it, you know, that that design really uh draws the dust out, keeps air clean and adding the um adding the arm over the top with dust collection. Also picking up to that upper basket is great. So regarding sa stop watch for more from us on this in the very near future. And um we'll uh continue to wish s stop their happy birthday, happy anniversary. And uh like I said, just watch for more videos coming from us regarding S stop. You're a diy er, and a woodworker indeed use a Miter saw much, lots of, lots of cycles on the miter saw. Um One of the things, one of the struggles I think people run into is when tools are leaving your shop and you want to have a good set up away from your shop. Um That's a big thing that Red House is addressing here with the Easy Wings. This is, this is as nice a set up as I would have on my miter saw as a shop saw and it also works away from the shop for sure. It is. It's, it's way nicer than the set up that I have in my shop. In fact, and I've got a really nice set up. So one of the things I very intentionally um in the video, you're about to see easy wings, which is this and this and a base here, the easy wings set up you're gonna see is on a portable Milwaukee set up that we're using away from the shop, but I wanted to set it up here because this is the other configuration you can use it in which is on a bench like this. The wings have their own legs and you can level all this in, get it aligned with the fence on your saw to make sure that this set up works for you and, and again, in either application, um, I think let's look at the video and then we'll come back and talk more about the easy wings when you need to take your miter saw on the road. So you're doing a diy project anywhere but in a shop, it's nice to be able to repeat the accuracy of a shop on your Miter saw stand. So I'm gonna show you a very cool red house product. It's their easy wings and you can use them here on the miter saw stand. We can also use them in the shop. So let's have a look at what this is all about. Now, starting here, this component that I've attached to my miter saw that's part of the system, that's part of the easy wing system so that can stay on with the saw. Then we're gonna extend and we're gonna extend. Now, one of the thing that's cool is that everything travels in this bag. OK. So what you're gonna see happen is I'm gonna put this extension onto the component that I just showed you. And what will be happening underneath there is that this dovetail is gonna engage with that aluminum component to bring everything together. So like that and like that now, while I'm taking this one out, let me show you we are legs. So I remember just a second ago, I said if you wanna use this system in your shop. It works great for that as well because we could set up on a table top and we could use these legs to provide the support that my miter sauce stand is currently supporting. In this case, we don't need those. You can also look underneath here and have a good look at. This is all anodized aluminum. It's gonna last forever even in outdoor diy type environments, very nice fence. Once again, we're gonna come on, engage and slide, then couple of bolts. And what that just did is it locked this wing onto my system here? So initial setup, you level this, you get stuff aligned once that's set up, we really can come on and off the saws. We want to. Now here with the fence, what I would do now that I'm set up on my saw is bring that over and then with a long straight edge, we can use the system. They get aligned with our fence just like that Red House has done a really good job of thinking through the individual components so that they play nice together to give you this great system with the easy wings. Once you're on your mi or so in the wings, there's a T track and I can take advantage of the T track in order to use a stop block. These accessories are commonly available. Red House also sells them. So with that I can get that locked in place. Now, of course, I can but against it, make repetitive cuts that are all the same size. So the whole system here anodized aluminum, really good quality construction goes together easily. It's modular. So if you needed more than this out here, you can keep adding wings, adding wings, adding wings. As long as you wanna go in either direction, use it on a stand like I've done here, use it on a bench top. If you wanna use it inside that type of environment, it's a really cool addition to your miter. So, so in addition to the modularity, is that a word of this system? Modular, um I love that it all fits in a bag because like you don't wanna be stumbling around with these pieces awkwardly getting them from your vehicle to wherever you're working. Um And it's a nice bag, like, you know, sometimes you get a bag for something and it's like, how did they ever get the stuff in here in the first place? Um It easily fits in the bag. It's very, very portable and the whole thing as a system works great. And I like to sometimes you see these in in, they didn't think of the whole idea of stops for repetitive cuts. So there are a number of ways you saw one in the video where you can add stops to the system so that when you're cutting whatever it is rails and styles for a cabinet or trim for a house you can repeat those cuts over and over again and important to know too, you can build this out in a direction as far as you want. Um So if you really need to have a lot of length to one side for a longer trim or something, you can do that. Well, Paul, I wanna thank you again for coming to another showcase despite the fact that I'm here. Um uh totally my pleasure and if uh I will forewarn you if you've got questions about these tools, this would be the time to get them in. Um Because we're gonna wrap up in just a little bit here. So we'll tap dance for a little to see if any other questions come in. But um I like when Paul comes to this stuff because his depth of knowledge on tools is really, really good. Um So it's not, you know, just about looking at that one tool, but it's about kind of the, the category and how stuff fits into the marketplace, right? And a long history on Paul's part of uh working with and, and disassembling and reassembling, not just using the tools but getting kind of the engineering, getting into the engineering that's behind it. It's an addiction and uh yeah, no end in sight. Yeah. So uh for Whitaker's Guild, you can watch for um upcoming Lives, as I mentioned at the start of this second Thursday of every month, four o'clock, central time is the General Q and A and, uh, we'll be back on that schedule with the General Q and A starting next month and I'm gonna peak one more time for Punta. All right. Well, I think we're set. So thanks to all you folks for watching. If you weren't out there watching us live, we wouldn't have a reason to do it live. So, Paul and I appreciate you watching the sponsors. 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