George Vondriska

WWGOA LIVE! January 2019

George Vondriska
Duration:   1  hrs 3  mins

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It was chilly outside, but plenty warm in the shop. Thanks for all the great questions you sent in.

:25 Spalted maple bowl
3:00 New shop direction
4:20 Reading grain direction
7:00 Ripping narrow stock/cutting aluminum
Rockler thin rip jig
MagSwitch
14:00 Aluminum cutting saw blade
15:20 Cleaning router bits CMT 2050
16:30 Banding a large table top
17:50 Cleaning residue from power rasps
19:20 Veneering bow front doors
19:40 Tung oil over water based stain?
21:00 Shop made PVC storage containers
21:50 Ipe cutting board?
23:00 Prepping green bowl blanks
25:55 Aligning hinges on small chests
26:16 Bamboo cutting boards?
27:00 Platinum Live Class
28:00 CNC buying advice
29:50 Grinding wheel for lathe chisels
30:30 Feed and speed for CNC
31:15 Veneering problems
33:00 Flatten boards with a plane or planer sled?
34:30 Sharpen table saw blades, or dispose of them?
36:00 Bandsaw blade advice
37:25 IsoTunes…foam or rubber ear piece?
38:00 Tent as a spray booth?
39:30 George’s classes
39:55 Cutting aluminum on a SawStop
41:30 Assembling miters on a box Quick and Thick Glue
42:00 Types of bandsaw tires
43:00 Projects with persimmon
43:20 How do you know when a saw blade is dull
45:20 Mixing woods for a stool seat
45:40 Bandsaw blade “fishtailing”
46:00 Shop made spray booth
47:30 Titebond Extend
48:00 Resorcinal?
48:50 Bandsaw drifts left
50:37 Smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in George’s shop
51:28 Making a table saw fence parallel to the blade
56:40 Lubricating blades and bits
57:15 Bevels on panels
58:20 Sliding table on SawStop saw
58:39 Three phase in George’s shop?
59:40 Stain for walnut?
60:00 George’s upcoming teaching schedule

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  2. GEORGE

    Our Woodworking Group meets the second Tuesday of every month. So I always watch later. Excellent show. We are the Valley Woodworkers of West Virginia. We have over 70 members. our website is http://valleywoodworkers.org. We have a facebook site: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ValleyWWV/. If you are ever in WV stop by.

  3. Mike Monaghan

    Hi George from Ida MI. Which ear tips do you use for your Iso-Tunes Pro. The foam tips or the rubber one's

  4. PAUL

    Try the mute on your keyboard.

Yeah. Are you feeling prepared? Does the little black box say-- It says preview. We're live? It says preview. Does the, now the little black box says we're live now, starting now? Whoop, I gotta shut this volume off 'cause that'll be a crazy echo. Black box says. It says preview. We're live? Wow. The volume control doesn't want to come up. Now the little black box says we're live now? This is irritating. Wow. Let me get this, wow. This is irritating. Hang on. Hold please. I'm clicking the volume button on my device here. And it doesn't want to click. Should be able to mute it directly on the page. Okay, thank you Jenny. All right, sorry about that tiny little technical glitch and another technical glitch. I'm gonna start tonight with just a little bit of show and tell just 'cause it's cool. There's, I'll just put that there. There's a maple bowl that I turned. My friend Paul comes to the shop at the Christmas season. He comes and spends a day turning with me. And this year I pulled this piece out of storage. And what's cool about this is that I've just seen if I had another piece there, when I get a log that I want to turn into a bowl that I'm gonna put it away, I wrap it in stretch film, 18 inch wide stretch film, and it's just you know, like putting leftovers in your freezer. I wrap it and wrap it and wrap it and wrap it and wrap it. So this got put away three years ago, this piece of maple. At the time it got put away it wasn't spalted. Spalting is a fungus. That's the black lines that you can see in there. So this has happened to me a couple of different times where if it, the reason I know it wasn't is 'cause if the wood's got a cool characteristic, I write that on the stretch film. So I write the day I stored it, what its moisture content is, and if it's kind of anything cool, like spalting or flaying or quilting or whatever. So when I put this away three years ago, it didn't have any spalting. And when I took it out, look at that amazing, amazing, amazing piece of wood. So that's just neat. I just wanted to show you to that, show that to you. I'm really, really happy with how that bowl came out. Dripping wet green the day I turned it. The other thing, too, you know where I'm going next. I like having neat decorations in the shop, kind of a talking point if people are in here for classes or whatever. So Jenny and I were at an architectural salvage store a week ago tomorrow, last Friday. And we found this Isn't that cool? A walk light. So I had, it was only the light, and it's just inch and a half plumbing pipe from a home center is how I got it mounted to the wall and I put a little wiring on it, and then I put a remote on it 'cause of course who wants to walk all the way over there to turn that on? So it's just a neat, it's my new favorite thing in the shop. I love that. So anyway, that has nothing to do with woodworking, but here we are. So before I jump in, big thanks to Titebond for sponsoring this and... We're gonna hit it. First question, really loved the Q&A. Thank you, very nice. My main problem is as a relative newcomer to woodworking is how to read grain, how to tell grain direction. I've lost count of the number of times I gouged a piece out of a project. I'm coming from, I'm gonna say the name wrong. C-l-w-y-d, Clwyd in the UK. Grain direction. So here's a board. This is ash. And here's the way I typically teach this is think of grain in a board like hairs on a cat. And what we know about cats is that if you pet them in the right direction their hair lays down and then they stand there for a while anyway. Cats like to do things on their own terms. And if you cut the grain in the, if you pet their hair in the wrong direction, it kind of stands up on end and they run away, which is okay with me. No, I love cats. So wood is the same way. We got the hairs in the right direction. When you look at this piece, the grain lines are prevailing up toward that edge, up toward the edge, up toward that. So if you think of this like a cat, if I go in this direction, those hairs, those fibers are laying down, and if I come in this direction, they're gonna stand up. So symptomatically, when you're jointing the edge of a board or hand planing the edge of a board. If I plane it in this direction, I'm most likely gonna get good results. If I plane it in this direction or joint it in this direction, when those stand up on the edge, one of the symptoms of that is chipping. So one way to look at this is that if I'm on a joint here and that edge is down, here's what's kind of cool. See the big flame right here, that cathedral? Typically not all the time, but typically a flames or cathedrals on a board point in the correct trail direction for a jointer, or a router table. It's the same rule. If I have this horizontal and there's a bit spin, I'm gonna get the best result if I can cut in this direction rather than this direction. So this is showing me feed that way to lay the cat hairs down. So hopefully the cat hair thing helps you a little bit. Steve says, dos preguntas, two questions from Steve in Connecticut. On the December live showed a table saw sled, narrow card sled maybe? Have you run into a case for the length of card is longer than your sled? Oh, so it must be the narrow card slide. Yeah, so we will go to the table saw in a little bit to answer that question 'cause I think I know what you're talking about. Two, I've seen when a table saw is used to cut aluminum T track, very true. I have thin aluminum strip about 12 inches long. I need to remove about 40 thousandths on the long edge to fit into a matching track. I was either gonna secure the aluminum with board and set it. I think you, I think it ended there prematurely. So yeah, I would, if your question is, can you rip that on a table saw? Yeah, the answer is yes. And we'll go to the saw and also talk about place selection. And I think double faced taping it to another board is a good idea 'cause it's probably something pretty small. So let's go... Let me do a quick browse to see. Yeah, so let's go there and Jenny table saw, and then we'll come back to the bench and do more questions here. So Steve's question. First part, small parts ripping. So this sled, if you want to see this in action go back to the December live, a month ago, and I showed this, and his question was what about longer pieces? Great question because if I'm edge banding and cabinet parts, I'm not gonna be able to cut those on this 'cause that edge banding has to be way, way, they're coming for you Jenny. That edge banding has to be way longer than the selected hand. So here's what I use for that. Here's the way this works, and companies make these products commercially. I know Rockler sells them. This one has two magnets in them. And if you're not familiar yet with these magnets, which is your should be, they're amazing. The way it works is that in this position turned like this, I'm gonna go down to the table, sorry Jenny. Right now those magnets are turned off. So nothing's happening. When I turn these, I'm turning them on. And that has an amazing amount of bite on the table saw. Now you can just stay where you are. So the way this works is that I'm gonna set it up. Why don't you, actually Jenny, I'm gonna be come in closer Let me move this bench out of the way a little bit. I can zoom in more. Well, you need to be straight onto the blade to really see what's going on. But yeah, from there if you can do a zoom. I'm gonna unplug. And we want to be right here. So here's what I'll do. This bolt is so that I have fine adjustment on this up. So I want to set this so that the distance from my left side of the blade to the head of this bolt is the thickness of material I'm trying to produce. So if I want is, do you want me to just take the guard off? Yeah, that'd be great. Man, this thing's heavy. All right. So I'm gonna set this so the distance from the head to the left side of the blade is equal to the thickness of banding I want, but this jig needs to be here. So you can put a straight edge on here, draw a line on the table measure, but test cuts, whatever it's gonna take. So then I can lock this down. And the reason this is like this is so that once it's locked, I can micro adjust this and then use the wing nut, hang on a second. There. I can micro adjust. Then use the wing nut to rigidly lock it in place. Now, the way it works is the material you're cutting your edge band from, you bring that to the rip fence on the saw, slide to the left until the material's edge kisses the head of the bowl, and then you move forward. And this off cut is what you're keeping. And of course I can have the guard on here because it's not interfering with the fence or anything. So I would have the guard in place. So the part we want is coming off the outboard side, it's the off cut. Once I made that cut, now the board is narrower, I bring it back. I put it on the fence. I, again, slide the fence over until the freshly cut edge kisses the bowl. Make the cut. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. So logistically part of the key to this is if you need a lot of edge banding, you want to have a bunch of boards that are the same width. So then once I kissed this bowl for board number one, I can cut cut number two, cut number three, cut number four, cut number five. Then I come back again, move the fence and I can cut a bunch of boards. Come back again and move the , rinse and repeat. So like, obviously this is shop made. And like I said, I'm confident and somebody else could maybe put it in the comments if they have one that Rockler makes a version of this that I think locks in the miter gauge slot. I don't think it's magnetic, but the concept is the same. Now aluminium on the table saw. Let me, yep. I'm just gonna come out here. So this is a Freud blade, obviously, and it is specifically for cutting aluminum. So one way to crack this nut in your world would be to just Google Freud blade for cutting aluminum. Characteristically, look how fine the teeth are. It's an 80 tooth blade. And then if we look this way, or you can just trust me. Am I inside of your focal length? Move back a little bit. There we go, that's good. Okay, it's a triple chip grind. So high tooth count, 80 tooth count, triple chip grind. And then also look at the rake which is the angle on the teeth. And I believe it's negative. Let me cheat and read it here if it says. Yeah, it doesn't say on here, but I'm pretty darn sure that this is a negative rake. If it's not negative at zero, but I think it's negative. I think it's actually leaning back from the cut. So this is specifically a non-ferrous metal cutting blade, and I've cut a boatload of aluminum with this. It does a really great job. Okay. Look any questions. Evangelist says hello from West Point, like West Point, the military academy? That's kind of cool. Sorry, my little chat roll thing here is being a little funky. What's the best way to clean router bits before sharpening? Router bit cleaner. I often use a product called CMT... Yeah, I couldn't remember if it was CMT 2000 or 2050. CMT 2050, real benign stuff, but works great. Spray it on and let it said a couple of minutes. And then I use Jenny's toothbrush to scrub them to get the stuff up. I use an old toothbrush to scrub them. Toothbrush because the bristles are plastic. So you're not rubbing on the carbide with something metal. That works very well. Thomas says, I emailed my question earlier. Perhaps you can answer during the live but I don't know what that question is. So just repost it Thomas, 'cause I don't know where the, I don't know what email that would be. KMY, Kimmy something, a frequent question to asker, which is great, says I want to use a router and a set of plywood edging bits so I can cut a profile into a two by four foot tabletop, then at a hardwood edge with a mating profile. On the table, should I cut the groove using a router table and some sort of support or put it on the work bench and do it in handheld? That's a pretty big, you don't say how thick it is but you still, so thick because that's gonna make it heavier, but still at two feet by four feet, that's a significant chunk of wood. I would lean toward doing the cuts on the table at the bench handheld. Take the tool to the work so that you're not fighting that. There's just, if you have it on the table, especially when you're doing the two foot end, and there's four foot of stuff sticking off. If that rocks a little bit, it's gonna screw up the joint you're cutting. So I think that's a case where it's better to do it handheld. Gary is in South Pasadena, and says hello. Hello, Gary. Nurse Boy 9999, hi from Manitoba. Hello, Manitoba. The best way to clean wood residue from power rasps? Power rasp, brushes don't work. It's told to use a torch and burn it out. Won't that damage the rasp? Well, I don't know. I'm not a power carver kind of a guy. So I'm not sure. I'd be hesitant to take a torch to a tool. I think you could gently do that without screwing up like the hardness of it, but I'm with you. I'd be hesitant to do that. I don't know. I don't have a good one for that. Mike from FDL, Wisconsin. What's FDL? Jenny, what do you think that is? FDL. I know Wisconsin pretty well, but I don't know what that is. Fond du Lac. Hmm, oh, Fond du Lac. Good job, good shooting, Jacks. Way to go! Nice, yeah. Hello, Mike, from Fond du Lac. A guest says, oh, that was Mike. Can you demonstrate how to do an inlay with the router? Yeah, but I'd have to prep for it. For one I don't have any inlay here, so that's something I would need to work up ahead of time. Maybe the February live, we can come back and look at that. Tony says we're putting veneers on bendable plywood to make round tables and both front doors using Titebond to glue with heat to apply veneer on plywood. Yeah, cool technique. Robert says I just finished a curly maple tabletop with several layers of general finish, water-based dye stain. Would tung oil be the best final finish for a dining tabletop. You know, I don't, finishing questions always frightened me because I'm not a huge finishing guy. I know a lot of people use tung oils on furniture. That's that's what's on my work bench here, linseed oil and tung oil. For me with tables, with high use tabletops, I'm putting out a water-based lacquer that's specifically designed for tabletops. So I don't know. I would ask around the more finishing people that know finishes better. As I jokingly say, but it's actually true, a big extent of my knowledge is I spray dewaxed shellac as a seal coat. I spray water based lacquer as a top coat. It works great. That's a formula that works for me. Outside of that finishing box, I'm not that well versed. And I, there's so much that goes into a project. I don't want to lead you down the primrose path at the finishing step. So I would ask somebody that knows more than me which is easy. Easy to find people that know more than me, and AJ's watching from Massachusetts. Hey AJ, say hi to Gracie. Kimmy says, how'd you add bottoms to the PVC containers behind you? It's it's quarter inch ply, which is glued on the bottom. So I took, it's a four-inch pipe and I, are you zoom zooming? Okay, it's four inch pipe. I sat the pipe on a piece of plywood and traced it. And then I cut it too big on, I dunno, band saw or hand-held jigsaw, glued it on with CA glue. And then once the glue was dry, used a flush trim router bit and a handheld router to trim it flush. So that, I was too cheap to buy the caps for all these four-inch pipes and that plywood work great on it. Newfoundland, Canada. That's cool. Orlando. I bet it's warmer there than here. That's Steven. Considering making a cutting board from ipe, any thoughts? Well, that's crazy hard. So that's good. It's naturally water resistant, so that's good. I think it'd be a good choice. Closed grain. You know like oak is not closed grain. Oak is kind of porous, not a good cutting board choice. So yeah, no, I think that would be good. I think when you glue it, you gotta be careful about gluing it. You need to wipe it down with naptha before you glue it, 'cause it's an oily wood. So you want to make sure the glue has a chance to stick. So I would, I cleaned it with naptha when you get to the gluing step before you put the glue on. Good evening, George. I think I've heard you talk about turning projects from green wood and then wrapping them in plastic. Could you explain in a little detail? I tried it with a piece of magnolia and it molded up on me. Perhaps I wrapped it too tight. Yeah, so no, it sequence is the other way around. I wrap stuff in plastic. I cocoon it in plastic when it's a block, when it's like a log. So I find a log that I think would be a cool bowl, I bring it in the shop. Either with a band saw or electric chainsaw, I kind of cut it around, and I get it sort of looking like a bowl like. Then I wrap it in plastic, and I set it aside until I get to it. Then like this bowl, this was 26% moisture content the day I started turning it. So I turned it start to finish dripping wet green. Now, if you look at it in this direction, you can see it's not round it's elongated. And I think that's cool. So obviously coming off the lathe, it was perfectly round but 'cause it was so wet, it continued to dry or it dried after it came off the lathe and that made it distort. It's got a couple of cracks in it. There's some spots. Come in, right there. There are some cracks. I can actually see light through those. That doesn't bother me at all. I think that's character. So for me, in this way of turning green bowls, I have been doing it start to finish green for decades, for 20 years. And I've had one or two crack to the point where I don't want to give them as a gift. Jenny, could you grab that huge box elder bowl. I think is on the CNC. No, all the way in the back. It's on that next wave, CNC. My friend Paul's approach is when it's green, he turns it but then he leaves the wall thick, sets it aside, I think, I dunno, six months until it completely dries. then he goes back and finishes it. This is another one. Thank you, Ma'am. A box elder bowl. I did same thing. Dripping wet green, a bunch of years ago. Yeah, usually I write the date on there, but I didn't. So same concept, start to finish green. Yeah, Bob if you can hear, we've been live for almost half an hour. He says, are we live yet? So yeah, maybe you need to refresh your screen. I'm jumping over to YouTube quick. How do you set the blade in a jointer after changing blades? That's one, unfortunately I can't even show that because I've got insert tooling in my jointer, so those are just carbide cutters that go in, come out, go in, come out. I don't know. I'd have to stew on how I can figure out how to show that live. Best way to line up half inch hinges on small wooden chest? Figure out where they go, square them up with a square. We've got an article on goa.com about hand routing to let hinges in. Seth Cowler wrote that article. It's very good. So that would help you. How would bamboo work for cutting boards? I've seen a lot of cutting boards made out of bamboo. It's crazy hard. So I think it would be a great make a great cutting board. Tim likes their new saw stops. All right. Terry is in Hawaii where I'm sure it's warmer than here. So what's Sam? Let me just click this. Yeah, 'cause a couple people, two people have said where's the live session? And I just clicked on it on my screen. It's playing and it's playing on YouTube as well. So I think we're okay. Thomas says, when is the next live class like the tool, the cordless tool class? It's coming up. I actually just submitted all the content yesterday. So I'm not sure what the date is but it should be coming up. So Kimmy you got to just tell me how to say your name and Cluston both responded about the Rockler jig, and Cluston says it's called a thin rip jig. So that's like what I was showing you on the table saw. ♪ Do do do do, do do do do, do do do do ♪ And Cluston provides a part number there as well. You can look in the comments. Thanks Cluston, that's cool information. And then Don's got a link for it, so you're covered. Any thoughts on CNC routers for starters? Yup, get two or three of them. So here's my advice. You gotta get some guesstimate on what you're gonna do. And then that's gonna lead to bed size because that's one of the first lines in the sand is how big a machine do you need? What's your budget's gonna be 'cause then that's gonna control obviously how much you can spend on the machine. You want to look, some machines will take both quarter inch and half inch shank router bits. Some will only get quarter inch router bits. My preference would be quarter and half. Some machines have spindles on them. Some machines have routers. Spindles are more expensive, but will last you longer. With some machines to save money, you can start with a router today but then you can upgrade to a spindle in the future. So that'd be a good question to ask the manufacturer is if I want to save that dough, if I want to start with whatever, a Bosch Colt or a Porter Cable 7518 and the router in a CNC today, can I in the future take that off and put a spindle on? 'Cause it's spindle for longterm CNC work is definitely the way to go. And then from there, CNC's have become so much more popular these days, a number of retail stores have machines in the store. So I would go to a store, tire kick there. Find a place where you can take a class. I do CNC classes here. I've got five CNC machines here. So it gives people the opportunity to work with them before they pull the trigger on them. So would find that in your area. Hello from Australia. That's very cool. Suggested grade of sharpening wheel for greater grit for wood lathe chisels? I do my sharpening on a low RPM grinder with 120 grit wheel. John says square level and plumb, meeting on the square. Yep. Medina, Ohio. AJ suggests compressed air on a power rasp. That might do it. That might kick it off. So Stan says on a CNC, how do you determine starting feeds and speeds for a given bit and what species? So let me just jump online here and I'm gonna confirm this. I use a feed and speed thing called yeah, G-Wizard. So G like George, G hyphen Wizard, and you can use it free to start out with and then it's a paid subscription based thing. But if you're using a CNC a lot, so I just went ahead and paid for the subscription for it. And you literally put in what bit you're using, how many flutes the bit has. Are you in hardwood? Are you in plywood? Are you in brass? Are you in aluminum? And it'll give you all the information. So that's how I figure it out. Larry says have a veneering question. I recently attempted to make a chess board using veneer. All went well, cutting and taping the squares. I sandwiched the veneer between MDF using calls, had good clamping pressure. Alas, I got terrible bubbles under the maple squares. Mahogany didn't bubble. I squeegeed the glue, but didn't roll before clamping. I use regular Titebond glue. So his question is, do I need to use a special glue and you have to use a roller for veneer? I am not a huge veneer guy, especially not you know, in a scenario like you've got the issue you've got here with the veneer bubbling. I've put veneer on MDF. I put veneer on solid wood to produce a contrast, but I just haven't... I haven't done enough of it to be able to answer the question. Titebond does make what they call cold press veneer glue, and you, call to Titebond to tell you what the advantages of that are over conventional yellow glue. But I'm just sorry, I'm not of a veneer guy to be able to help you with that. Can you talk about squaring the table saw fence to the blade? Yup, we'll run back to the table side and do that. Larry says your video on making a chess board saved me. I got a great final product. Cool, good. Robert says I got a new planer for Christmas. Yay! I do not have a jointer for boards that are not flat. Which is a better way to go? Use a plane to flat on one side or use a planer sled? I have sent a lot of stuff through, I've sent a lot of stuff through my planer with very gentle passes to get it flat. So what messes you up on a planer with boards that aren't flat is that when you get down pressure from the feed rollers, it pushes the board flat, planes it but then it springs back up on the opposite side. So what I found is often, not all the time, I can by using just very gentle down pressure on the planer , I'm giggling at Jenny. I can get a board flat. If I'm picking between the two, I not much of a hand plane guy. So if it's a hand plane or a sled, because you've got something that's so corkscrewed, gentle pressure is not gonna do it. I would build a sled and do it that way. That would work better for me 'cause I'm not much of a hand plane guy. Thomas your question about the Domino. I have never used those fasteners, I own a Domino but I've never used those fasteners. So I don't know. I just, I can't help you there 'cause I'm not familiar enough with it to be able to answer. Big Joe says when your table saw blades get dull do you have been sharpened or throw them away, buy a new one? I get them sharpened numerous times. So on the front end, when you're buying a blade, it's a good idea to throw money at table saw blades and miter blades and router bits. In other words, buy good ones. 'Cause part of what comes out of that, let me, you stay there, Jenny, I'm coming right back. See if I can find... Part of what we get on a good blade is lots of characteristics, a flat plate, good quality carbide, but also a lot of car, excuse me. A lot of carbide. The bigger the carbide is the more frequently we can sharpen the blade. So a good blade can be sharpened six or eight times before it gets to a point where there's not enough carbide left to tolerate another sharpening. So definitely yes, to sharpening and then leading into that, make sure you're getting a good blade so you get a lot of sharpenings out of it. We're not gonna forget. We got to go to the table saw yet. We're about halfway through. A big thank you again, Titebond for sponsoring and keeping these events free for all of us. Well, it's not free for me 'cause I have to pay Jenny. Camera operators. Good ones are hard to find. Jim says, just getting started with a band saw. Do you have preferences for band saw blades, suggestions on choosing one for resawing and one for scroller? Yeah, I use Timber Wolf. Could you Jenny, you see the cardboard box right on the top on all the crate stuff? That's full of band saw blades that I just ordered. I just need one. Just grab one. It's just, it's better instead of me just talking, if I show the show and tell part of the show. No es a Frisbee. Timber Wolf band saw blade. I get these from PS Wood, which is pswood.com. So as far as recommendations... Where are you? Resawing and scroll work. What I would do is jump online, pswood.com, find their phone number, call them, tell them what saw you have and what you want to do. And they're gonna say we recommend this blade, this blade, this blade. They have helped me so much with getting, making sure I got the right blade for what it is I'm trying to do. So give PS Wood a call, they'll help you out. Mike says, what ear bud tips do you use for your ISOtunes, foam or rubber? Foam mediums. And it's the mediums are perfect for my ears. Do you have, do you know what you have on yours Jenny? Foam or rubber? Jenny wears ISOtunes as well. She wears-- Foam but-- I use the foam. She uses the extras. The smallest foams. She's using small foams in hers. And rubber, rubber, it's rubber. Oh, she is using the rubber ones. And you liked them? Yeah, the foam ones are weird to me. Okay. Ryan says, I'm thinking about using a four person 90 by 80 tent for a spray booth. Any comments? It's interesting. It's not a bad idea. They, I mean, they sell... Your finishing, Ryan, that process will be so in tents. How could you not laugh at that? Come on. It was so bad. It's not bad. It's perfect. It's like the problem with Boy Scouts. They're always in tents. So anyway, no. So there are companies that sell what you're describing here. Shrouds, open to one side that are specifically for spraying inside to keep stuff from filtering out of there. It's a good idea. Give her a try. K-m-y. Okay, there we go. Ken says if installing a bow tie spline and a split in a slab, should I pull the split close to my first? No, no, no, no, no, 'cause you can't fight mother nature. If you, if the split is there and it's just relaxed and sitting there, put the bow tie in. If you try to pull it closed, push the bow tie in and then take the clamp off bad, things will happen. Something else is gonna crack. Do you have a website that shows classes if we want to fly up to take the class? Yes, Vondriska, my last name. Did I point in the right spot? Yeah. Vondriskawoodworks.com is my website. I'm reworking my whole class offering thing as we speak. So give me a little break on the scheduling. It's not fleshed out. Can I cut aluminium? Can I cut aluminum on my saw stop table saw? Yes, you can. Use a non-ferrous metal cutting blade, and don't forget to disable your brake. If you... if you leave the brake on and you touch it with a touch the blade with aluminum, you're gonna fire the brake. Plus it says routers are good at . Yeah. So the little more advice there from Cluston about spindles versus routers on CNC machines. Good advice. David says for sharpening is a variable speed grinder the equal of a slow speed grinder? My low RPM grinder runs at 1725. So that's where you want to hit it. Are you gonna be at the woodworking show in Charlotte, North Carolina at the end of March? Nope. End of tonight, I'll talk about my upcoming teaching schedule and where I'm going to be in the near future. So on YouTube, Dave asks what's the best solution for I think gluing is what he means. 45 degree miters on a box without using splines? Use, I've got, I've been using this quick and thick glue on anything that's end grain. So miter joints, screw pocket, pocket oil joints on face frames. It's a thicker viscosity glue. So it doesn't wick up into the end grain so much. And then I clamp it with, on a miter box. I would clamp it with a band clamp, pull all four sides in at one time. That's the way to go. Okie doke. Band saw tires come in different compositions, rubber versus urethane. Here's the thing, and what's the best? I'm not sure what the kick with your thing is. I had a Delta Band Saw, I bought in 1993-ish that had rubber tires on it. I used that saw for probably 15 years, and I'm a heavy band saw user. Ultimately, I replaced the tires only because I was replacing band saw tires for video content. There was nothing wrong with the rubber tires when I took them off. So I'm not sure what the big bonus is on your thing tires. I've never had a problem with rubber tires on a band saw failing. Barry says I've got a four foot by 15 inch log of persimmon, suggestions on projects. So I, stuff, I don't know. What do you want to make? My projects were not necessarily your projects. I would poke around on. The good thing to do is Etsy, and just look and see what other people are doing, and then find something there that clicks for you and make it. How do you know a saw blade needs sharpening versus cleaning? Nope, I'll show you. Do do do. I will walk around. So this Jenny is this where you'll earn your dough, 'cause this is a great tight shot. Right there, I'll hold my thumb still for you. Here's the way I test cutting tools. You should be able to take a router bit or a saw blade, and I think this one might actually be dull, and get a corner of the cutter. Can you pan? Thank you. Get a corner of the cutter and just scrape across your nail? And I'm not pushing down on the saw blade and see how it's scratching it? But it's not scratching it much. I expect a sharp blade to actually peel up like a curl off my thumbnail. When it won't do that, that tells me this blade is dull. So that's a good, objective test. And like I said, you can do the same thing with a router bit. Yeah, this blade, 'cause dull means the corners are rounded. So rounded corners will raise a curl on your nail. So that this blade is ready to go get sharpened. Austin says I'm making a bar stool. Would it be a good idea to use different types of wood glue together for the seat? Yup. The key to that is to make sure that the woods play nice together. So like woods with similar working characteristics, walnut, maple, cherry great combo. Walnut, pine, balsa wood would not a good combo 'cause their characteristics are so different. So your best bet is to keep all the characteristics the same. Hussein says hey, from the Tampa area. How to remedy band saw blades fish tailing? I set the blade gullet in the center of the wheel, but nothing seems to help. The blade is fairly new from Timber Wolf. So fish tailing and spluttering, I think you don't have enough tension on it. You have a tension deficit. Try putting a little more tension on it. Stan says feeding off the tent question, I'm thinking of creating a spray booth of plastic inside my shop for year round spraying. There's a window at one end and a bulkhead at the other. Should I put an explosion proof fan at one end? Yes, I mean any fan should be explosion proof. Can I recirculate and filter the air while wearing a respirator? So when it's cold. So he's concerned about when it's cold, pulling cold air in, which is a genuine concern. Most finishes don't like to cure under 50 or 60 degrees. I'm not sure that in just like a shop made, put a furnace filter on a fan thing. I don't think you're gonna get the air cleaning that you want. The filters that really do a good job of that are charcoal filters, not particulate filters. So to do what you're trying to describe there, I would look into charcoal filters and try setting up with that instead. I've jumped back to YouTube. See if there's anything over there. On YouTube, George says what's your opinion, experience with Titebond Extend? Does it provide sufficiently more open time compared to the Titebond original used on complex glue ups? So yeah, I've had, I use Titebond Extend a bunch of times, specifically, on complex projects that I'm trying to buy more assembly time on. So yeah, I like it. Oh, and we got to run back to the table saw and do that fence gizmo. Eric says DAP used to make a two-part waterproof glue called Resorcinol. Is there a health reason, is the manufacturing? Well, I don't know. I used Resorcinol. I built a boat in like the mid eighties, a 15 foot boat. And that was glued together with Resorcinol. I wasn't aware that it was no longer made. I haven't had a need to use it. Somebody, P Did says does a California Proposition 65 sticker on everything bother you? No, I don't even notice. All right, Jenny, should we? Yeah, okay, Mike, we're going back there. Lindsay says my jet band saw trends to the left. Is this a problem of the tension? No, it's just a drift thing. Pretty much all band saws have a drift angle. And it's the band saw, it's the blade. There's a lot of care, a lot of things that add up to make that happen. So it's not like a table saw where we put a blade on the table saw, we do all the alignment and it's good to go. You have to do drift compensation pretty much every time you change a blade on a band saw. Can you do a presentation on compound angles such as four or five side projects? Well compound angles I get. Four or five sided projects, I don't really know what that means but... we can cut compound angles, table saw or miter saw. Michael says, can I edge a piece of quarter-inch aluminum with an upper cut spiral bit? Yes, carbide spiral bit, yes. We've machined, Jenny and I have machined a lot of brass and aluminum on the CNC machine, and that was done, well, I've done it with a standard quarter inch up cut spiral. Better bit is what's called an O flute. O flute bits are specifically for cutting plastics and non-ferrous metals. Cam I. says do I have a smoke detector in my shop? Yes. What kind of fire extinguishers where I have? Kidde ABC, and a fire company comes and looks at them. I don't know, like once a quarter or something they come and inspect them. Let's go do the fence line on the table saw. And I think again, Jenny, you're gonna want to kind of look down there. So Jenny and I have discussed the casters on the stand are lousy. So I need to upgrade them, and it's, that's not Jenny's rolling, and it's not an earthquake. It's just I skimped a little too much when I bought those casters. I need to get better ones. So the question is, how do we make sure that the fence is parallel to the blade? So here's what you need to do. First thing you need to do is read the owner's manual for your saw. And there's gonna be information in there that helps you learn how on your particular saw adjustments get made. So the first thing you do is you test is the blade. Yeah, we're currently unplugged. Is the blade parallel to the miter gauge slot? And if you look on, I gotta think a second. If you look on goa.com and you search table saw set up, upper right-hand corner, we've got videos on this stuff. So basically... The gist of it is we're gonna put some kind of a measuring device in the miter gauge slot, a dial indicator is your best bet. Raise the blade as high as it'll go with it unplugged, and then I'm gonna bring that dial indicator over and let it kiss the side of the saw blade. My finger is the dial indicator. It's gonna kiss the side of the saw blade. Then the dial indicator moves to the back, and you rotate the blade. So we want to make sure that this reading that we're taking is always on the same tooth. 'Cause maybe that blade's not perfectly flat. So if all I do is read and read, maybe what I'm checking is, do I have a blade that's not flat? We need to read that tooth and then maybe mark it an X, with a felt tip, roll it to the back, read it again. Now on cabinet saws like this one, the way adjustments are typically made is that this top is held onto the base with four bolts. And those bolts go through flanges in the base into the bottom of the cast iron, and the holes in the flanges are too big for the bolts. As a result when the bolts are loose, this whole top wiggles independently of the blade. So Saw Stop takes it a step further. It's one of the great things about Saw Stop is they really thought this stuff through. There's actually an adjustment bolt that lets you dial it in and kind of corkscrew the top back and forth. The bottom line is on cabinet style saws, the blade and its mechanism are mounted in the cabinet, and the top, the cast iron moves independent. On contractor style saws, typically, the trunnion, the blade mechanism is bolted to the bottom of the top and same concept when the bolts that hold the trunnion to the cast iron are loose, the holes in the trunnion are too big and the whole trunnion can be wiggled. So cabinet saws, we move the top relative to the blade. Contractor saws, for the most part, we move the blade relative to the top. So step one is we get the blade parallel to the miter gauge slot. Now this is like middle school algebra. If A is equal to B and B is equal to C, A is equal to C. So next thing I'm gonna do then is bring my fence over. And I'm feeling here with my fingers is my left face on the fence even with the edge of the miter gauge slot? Right, there it is on my end. And then I run my fingers all the way back. Still parallel, still parallel, still parallel? Yes. So we're checking if the blade is parallel to the slot and the fence is parallel to the slot, then the fence is parallel to the blade. Now, if you've got a dial indicator, the other thing you can do, remember we used it here to read against the blade. We could turn it this way and use it to read against the fence, and use that to make sure that they're parallel. So this to this, this to this, and then you'll have this to this, and you'll be good to go. All right, couple of minutos left. Whoop, whoop. Do you prefer a paste wax or spray stuff to reduce friction on table saw blades and bits? Well, I never put paste wax on blades and bits. And I, every once in a while I spray a lubricant on blades or bits, but not often. I use spray stuff on my table surfaces, pointing to my table saw. Table saw, jointer, planer, bottoms of routers, router bases, top of my dove tail jig, all that stuff gets the aerosol spray. What advice do you have for cutting bevels or faces onto a panel? Designing panels has been something I haven't done yet but interested in starting. Router bits, basically panel raising router bits. And there's a profile that'll put a bevel on for ya, but there's a lot of it depends. What angle do you want? How long do you want it to be? The downside to router bits is the biggest bit you can get is three and a half inches in diameter. So your cutting area is only like an inch and a quarter, maybe. So if that works for you, great. If not, you can cut bevels on a table saw. You can do it with a hand plane. So yeah, end of the day, it depends on what look you're really trying to get. Stan says every time he views, he learns something. That's nice to hear. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Do I use the sliding feature on my Saw Stop? Yep, all the time. It's primarily, we use it for cutting bigger panels. It'll cross cut I think 37 inches. Do I have any three phase electric tools? Nope. But you can do... So a friend of mine had a commercial cabinet shop. He had three phase tools, and you can set up what's called a slave motor. And I don't know how it works, but I know it works. But a slave motor will let you convert single phase to three phase. But I think there are limitations on like how many amps that'll kick out and that kind of stuff. But you need an electrician for that, not moi. How many pounds of the magnetic switches? I do not know, but I think if you Google Mag Switch, m-a-g, you'll find them online and they'll, if they don't have it on their page, you can check their customer service, and there'll be able to tell you. All right, one last cruise. Best surface stain after turning walnut. I don't know 'cause I've never stained Walnut. I just like it's natural color. Yeah, so I'm not a good one for that. After turning one, you know, when I turn stuff I typically just finish it clear. All right, we're gonna wrap up 'cause it's eight bells. I said, I talk about where's Waldo. So let me think a second. January, let's see. All right, so next weekend, we'll go to San Diego. We all, me, Jenny, her sister. Everyone's invited. Everyone's invited. 'Cause we're gonna watch Jenny's brother, my son, graduate from the Marine Corps Bootcamp in San Diego. So that's part of the reason we're gonna San Diego. I'm also teaching out there on Saturday the 19th. The qualifier there is it's through the San Diego Woodworking Club. I teaching drawer construction 9:00 AM, Saturday the 19th. Don't contact me about this if it's something you're interested in doing. I'm not sure if it is or is not open to members outside the club, but there are a very active woodworking club. They've got a website, San Diego Fine Woodworking Club I believe is what it's called. But if you do San Diego woodworkers, you're gonna find them. So I'm there Saturday the 19th. A week later, Saturday the 26th and Sunday the 27th, I'm in Chicago at the two Rockler stores. So I am two in the afternoon at both Orland Park and Bolingbrook. The specific stores are on my Vondriska woodwork site or they're on the Rockler sites. So you can check there. I'm not sure which store I'm at which day, but at two in the afternoon I'm doing the door making demos, one day in Bolingbrook, one day at Orland park. Then in February, I'm at the Rockler stores in Minneapolis, St. Paul. I'm doing the Minnetonka store and the Maplewood store. Then that comes after we do the February live, so I'll have more info there. And I think I'm all day in each of those two stores. So that's a longer teaching gig. End of February, I'll be at Stan Houston Equipment in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. I think this is year 15 or 16 for me teaching there. That is the last weekend in February, Friday and Saturday. I don't know the topics yet. March 19th, I'm in Indianapolis, Indiana. And again, this is one that this is through Central Indiana Woodworking Club. I don't know if they do or do not open that to outside, to members outside of the club, people outside of the club. But if you're in the Indianapolis area, and you want to check it out, Central Indiana Woodworking Club right around March 19th. I think I'm there for three days teaching. March, April, that's all I can remember off the top of my head right now. So shall we sign off Jenny? All right, hasta la vista. Thanks so much for watching, and we will see you in February, and we will have come back with a new Marine, which will be kind of cool. So thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
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